Drafting and Streaming Quarterbacks in a 2-QB Fantasy Football Leauge

Let’s assume for a minute that we 2QBers weren’t in the minority when it came to fantasy football.  And let’s also assume for a minute that the vast majority of the draft strategy material that’s out in cyberspace was geared towards us instead of the 1-QB leagues.  And finally, let’s assume for a minute that we had 2-QB league streaming quarterback strategies in abundance, right at our fingertips.   Can you picture it?

Now, let’s wake up.

There are some tremendous fantasy writers who have written about streaming in 2-QB leagues.  JJ Zachariason (@LateRoundQB) first caught my attention on the subject when he wrote this article.  With excellent value and insight regarding the topic, he laid the groundwork for approaching the draft with streaming in mind.  Another fantastic writer with a 2-QB mentality is Salvatore Stefanile (@2QBFFB).  His piece took it a step further when he incorporated his own strategies and applied them in a 2-QB mock draft.  And while 2-QB leagues are growing in popularity, the truth is that the accessible content out there really isn’t enough to satisfy a real diehard’s itch.  When I read streaming aficionado C.D. Carter (@CDCarter13) discuss his insightful opinions on quarterback streaming, it is under the assumption that the people using this information are in a 1-QB league.  As a manager coming from a different draft strategy, I wonder how their words can have an impact on my needs as a 2QB’er.

Background Work

Using results from a previous article I wrote, in which I analyzed the first three draft combinations of 40 mock drafts, (which can be found here), I looked specifically at quarterbacks that were drafted within the first three rounds of the mocks. I completed 8 different position combinations, each from the 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, and 10th draft slots.  I used FantasyPros‘ projected season point totals for each player, and tallied up every starting roster’s totals to determine the number of total points each team would accumulate at the end of the season, based off those projections.  Lastly, I determined whether or not a team made the playoffs if they finished in the top 4 teams in point totals.  If we assume there are 10 teams in the league, the top 4 teams usually make the postseason, unless your league’s settings have them differently.  The highest point totals don’t necessarily mean the most wins in a  Head to Head league, but this was the closest replication of playoff-caliber teams in my opinion.  I left some draft results out of this summary that weren’t as relevant to the topic at hand.  The key data points for this QB streaming article are as follows:

Draft   Pick (10-team) QB/QB/? QB/?/? QB/?/QB ?/QB/? ?/?/QB
2nd Rank 7th 2nd 3rd 8th 6th
4th Rank 6th 3rd 2nd 4th 1st
6th Rank 7th 2nd T-3rd 1st T-3rd
8th Rank 4th 1st 5th 7th 6th
10th Rank 6th 3rd 2nd 7th 1st

*   ? = a RB/WR/TE selected in that spot

** These rankings are based on overall points for starting rosters only

Conclusions

What can we draw from this data?  Let’s look at the 3 columns highlighted in red.

  1. Going QB/QB in the first two rounds led to some of the worst rankings in the mocks.  Assuming a 4 team playoff bracket, only 1 roster is making the postseason
  2. Drafting an elite QB in the first round, and then concentrating on high upside skill players, generally led to a top-3 finish in overall points.  All 5 rosters made the playoffs.
  3. Waiting until the 3rd round for a QB is hit or miss, based on the skill players you surround him with.  Two first place finishes and a tie for 3rd place led to 3 out of 5 rosters making the playoffs.  High risk/high reward type rosters

Being that QB/QB is essentially out of play, it brings us to the original point earlier regarding QB streaming.   It appears that spending one of your high draft picks on a quarterback is a solid foundation for a consistent team.  Now the question remains, how can we get maximum value out of the second quarterback slot position?  Because let’s be honest, if your QB1 is locked and loaded, and you then turn your focus on RBs and WRs for the next four to five rounds, you’re not getting a strong QB2 in round six.  Which is where streaming your second QB comes into play.

Future Draft Strategies

Using Average Draft Position (ADP) from FantasyPros experts and a QB Strength of Schedule (SOS) chart by Chet Gresham (@Chet_G), I’ve created an effective plan to cure your QB2 needs.   First, I determined the quarterbacks with middle to low ADP.  Let’s assume you are in a 10-team league.  That means there will be 20 starting quarterbacks playing in your league any given Sunday.  Taking this into consideration, I looked at quarterbacks with ADPs ranging from 18-32, because this is where you will likely be drafting from if you choose to wait on your second quarterback.  I then removed quarterbacks who I will not be targeting this year, either due to inefficiency or a lack of NFL experience.  These quarterbacks include Mark Sanchez, Jake Locker, Christian Ponder, Chad Henne, E.J. Manuel and Matt Flynn.  If you are a believer in any of these guys, feel free to replicate this process with them.  And good luck.

Once that list was complete, I looked at the SOS for each of these quarterbacks.   I included an abridged version of Chet’s chart below, showing only the quarterbacks (and a few other low ADP quarterbacks) I focused on for this article.  You can get the full version here.

QB SOS

Quarterback Strength of Schedule 2013 Grid. Used with permission from Chet Gresham.  TheFakeFootball.com

Quarterback Strength of Schedule 2013 Grid.
Used with permission from Chet Gresham.
TheFakeFootball.com

Now I focused on the best pairings, given the relative ease of their opponents.  I selected 10 total pairings, and counted the number of weeks that either of the two quarterbacks had an “easy” opponent (marked in blue on the chart), or a “medium” opponent (marked in green on the chart).  For clarification, any defense ranked #22-32 vs. the pass is classified as “easy”.  Any opponent ranked #16-21 vs. the pass I ranked as “medium”.  Additionally, I included two columns that focused solely on match-ups in weeks 14-16, which is when fantasy playoffs usually commence.  Here are the results:

Player Combo Easy Opponent Medium Opponent Easy Opponent week 14-16 Medium Opponent week 14-16
Alex Smith/Phillip Rivers 12 2 3 0
Carson Palmer/Jay Cutler 11 4 3 0
Jay Cutler/Alex Smith 11 5 3 0
Matt Schaub/Sam Bradford 10 4 3 0
Matt Schaub/Sam Bradford 9 5 3 0
Jay Cutler/Ryan Tannehill 9 6 2 1

Now, for arguments sake I included one more quarterback to this experiment that has higher ADP than where I targeted for this article.  Tony Romo (ADP 12) can have a huge impact on your team if he falls to you in later rounds.  Or, you can target him at his current ADP, and grab his handcuff later on.  While Romo doesn’t really fall in the “streaming” caliber of quarterbacks, he has the third easiest schedule vs. the pass in the NFL.  If you decide to use a higher draft pick in order to get him, it can potentially pay huge dividends.  Here is what your QB2 situation could look like if Romo found his way on your team:

Player Combo

Easy Opponent

Medium Opponent

Easy Opponent week 14-16

Medium Opponent week 14-16

Tony Romo/Alex Smith

14

1

3

0

Tony Romo/Phillip Rivers

13

2

2

0

Tony Romo/Jay Cutler

11

5

2

1

Tony Romo/Josh Freeman

9

5

1

0

 

What this data shows us is that by pairing certain quarterbacks together, you can have up to 14 “easy” opponents in a 16-game season, including playoffs.  Even if you take Romo out of the equation, and only include quarterbacks in the 18-32 ADP range, you can still get up to 12 easy opponents, with all three playoff games with the “easy” label.  Clearly Alex Smith or Phillip Rivers is no Drew Brees.  However, when paired together, they can have comparable point totals over the course of a season.  Additionally, streaming your QBs allows you to completely bypass difficult match-ups as well, based on SOS.  Brees (rank # 31), Stafford (#28), Brady (#21), Rodgers (#18) and Wilson (#17), all are ranked in the bottom half of the SOS chart.  Taking less talented quarterbacks, but putting them in a great position to succeed, is what streaming a quarterback is all about.  The question is, will you be bold enough to make it happen when you’re on the clock?

22 Comments

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22 Responses to Drafting and Streaming Quarterbacks in a 2-QB Fantasy Football Leauge

  1. Nicely done, Paul. Yet another great article.

  2. Tom

    I like this. Nice article. I’m just never big on Tony Romo but I may alter your methods for my 8 team league. Thanks!

  3. Luke

    I love the fact that you are addressing the strategy of drafting in a 2QB league. I am in two such 10 team leagues and spend way too much time in analysis paralysis when speculating on the best tactics for my upcoming drafts.

    There is one major flaw in your results and conclusion of when and how many QB’s to select in your draft, and that’s the projections you’re using to determine those conclusions. The media’s projections are all wrong, they’re at best, educated guesses and opinions. They get it right about 50% of the time, and that’s not even including the variables of injuries, politics, and coaching; which is too much variability to base your draft strategy on.

    Ultimately, it’s about value and consistency, while landing at least one, if not two, huge upside players in the later rounds that nobody saw coming. One guy in my league has made it to the Championship round two years running by going WR/WR in rounds 1 and 2, while drafting RGIII and Luck in rounds 7 and 8 last year. Granted, it was a risky move, but he had the foresight to see they had huge upside and were getting their opportunities, while stockpiling his team with stud WR’s and RB’s for 6 rounds prior.

    I analyzed the prior years’ drafts and saw another guy in our league that has a tendency to go QB/QB in rounds 1 and 2, every year he did it, he basically had two top 5 QB’s on his roster and dominated the league in scoring, securing the first seeding in the playoffs. I personally like Matthew Berry’s thoughts on building a consistent playoff team by plotting the number of starting positions in your team’s league, then using their average points based on your tiered projections to find that consistency.

    In a 2QB league, no position produces consistent points than QB’s and if you can get two Tier 1 QB’s on your squad, that’s a third or even a half of your weekly point totals guaranteed every single week! The trouble and key question here is how much and how early do you have to pay to get two of these top QB’s on your squad without sacrificing the opportunity to land a decent RB or two in the process…?

    I understand that’s where your streaming strategy comes in, but man, that’s risky too because the two QB’s you draft in rounds 7 & 8 may both be busts and then your left with a 15-25% point gap deficiency to make up each week. And we all know that’s not getting cured unless you score 2013’s Alfred Morris off the waiver because you started your season out 1-3 (which by -the way I did last year and ended up winning the whole damn thing).

    I’ve decided that winning your league in this manner is too risky and I’d much rather swing for the fences with my sleeper picks for RB/WR, safely knowing that 50% of my teams production is nearly guaranteed each week.

    We all know that with popular media all telling us in every magazine and internet article to wait on QB’s, that there’s going to be a run on RB’s in the first and second rounds. If you don’t grab a solid producer with 300+ touches at RB coming out of the first or second round, you’re not getting one in rounds 3 and 4.

    That’s why I’m strongly considering going RB/QB/QB/RB or even RB/RB/QB/QB in the first four rounds. It will all really depend on what draft position I draw an hour before the draft. The big risk with going for the second strategy, knowing that about 3 QB’s will go each round, that there might not be an opportunity to draft a Tony Romo in the 4th round, but instead be left holding my junk because only Eli Manning is left sitting there. That’s the dilemma I dealing with while waiting another 30 days for my draft.

    The angel on my shoulder says you have to take the points when they’re available and the greedy bad boy on the other shoulder says wouldn’t you like to have your cake and eat it too with a combination of something like CJ Spiller/Afred Morris/Russel Wilson/Tony Romo…

  4. Paul

    Hey Luke,
    Thanks for the reply. You make some good points, and I see where you’re coming from. However, this experiment was just that; an experiment. I’m not suggesting that you MUST go with a certain strategy depending on what spot you draft from. I just wanted to see what draft combo gave me the most points at each draft spot.

    As for using point projections to obtain results, I don’t see this as a major flaw. Granted, all projections aren’t completely accurate. However, the experts who create projections and ADP use prior stats, useage, personnel change, etc. to come up with their point totals. It’s an educated guess that is used to create ADP, which people like you and I use to formulate our own draft strategy. So while not foolproof, there is a lot of research that goes into these numbers. Clearly you don’t have to use them, but for me and this experiment, it was the means to an end.

    As for your own strategy, it’s important to have a plan, but you must also be ready to adapt in a moment’s notice. All drafts are fluid, with unpredictable outcomes and draft picks that will skew your own mentality and strategy. If you go in saying you must draft a QB in the second round, you’re limiting your options, which may leave you with a roster that you don’t love. From a personal standpoint, I would definitely grab my first QB in the 1st or 2nd round, and then target someone with a lower ADP but high upside later on.

    You need to be happy with your team for the next 4 months. So whatever strategy you decide on, be sure that the players you select will give you confidence.

    Again, thanks for reading, and good luck!

    Paul

  5. Hey Luke,

    Thanks for checking out the site and reading Paul’s article.

    Projections are great, but they are just a part of the story. In any type of fantasy football format, really. You use them, alongside your own opinions, thinking, and research, to formulate a basis for your strategy. And even then, you have to be flexible when draft day rolls around.

    Some people are put off by rookies, but not the guy that drafted Luck/RG3 in your league, as an example. Last year they provided great value because they weren’t being drafted that high, even in 2-QB leagues. I remember in my main 12-team 2-QB league, where passing TDs are worth 6 points, they both went in the 3rd round. I was high on RG3 last year and benefited by getting him late. Well, at least late when it comes to 12-team 2-QB drafts.

    The question of when to draft your QBs in a 2-QB league is a question that will always be asked, as it’s going to be an answer that will change from year to year.

    I’m not all that familiar with the 10-team 2-QB world, but from the 10-team 2-QB mocks I’ve been in, the strategy I found to work the best was to grab a QB1 early, within the first three rounds, and then grabbing 2 QBs to stream as my QB2. I liked stocking up my team with RBs and WRs, during the rounds I wasn’t going QB.

    Streaming isn’t for everybody, and it’s a strategy you have to be committed to, regardless of league format. You also have to have faith in some of the tier 2 QBs, like Eli, Freeman, or Cutler, just to name a few.

    Going RB/RB/QB/QB, like you mentioned, would be the strategy I’d lean towards, out of the two you mentioned, but you also have to be able to change your strategy on the fly. If QBs are flying off the board, you might have to grab a QB a round earlier than you expected. Knowing your draft slot will help, and then being in the actual draft and watching it unfold will help steer you in the direction you believe to be the right one.

    I agree with the devil talking in your other ear… Spiller/Morris/Wilson/Tomo would be quite a nice nucleus.

    Good luck with your draft, Luke!

  6. Luke

    Paul and Salvatore,

    Thanks for your in depth responses, you’ve both given me a lot to ponder during this preseason. Remembering to have a plan, yet let the draft develop organically and allowing for flexibility when making selections definitely is something I needed a reminder on. 2QB leagues are a lot like an unsolvable rubik’s cube, each year I think I’ve got the answer, yet, it’s a moving problem. Thanks again, I’ll be checking back in frequently for more good stuff!

  7. Hello again, Luke

    When it comes to the world of fantasy football, regardless of format, if you don’t have a plan you don’t have much of anything. That’s my thinking. You gotta put in all that time researching and studying, and looking at different draft strategies, because it will pay off in the end.

  8. Scott

    Salvatore,

    After much time, my league is moving from failry standard scoring (6pt for all td’s, 1 pt per 25 pass yds and 1 pt per 10 rush or rec yds) and line-ups (1qb, 2,rb, 2wr, 1 te, 1 k, 1 dst) to a completely new format:

    >>>1qb, 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 te, 1 k, 1 dst and SuperFlex (wr/rb/te or QB). All scoring the same except and HUGE impact: 4 pts pass tds and 1 PPR.

    So, I am picking 9 in 12 team (non-keeper), and I am pretty sure 50% of the league won’t “get it” and chase a bunch of RBs and WRs and before you know it will be in rd 4 with decent Qb’s around. I am thinking to go stud QB in rd 1 (1 of these 3 should be there – Brees, Rodgers or Newton – I like P Manning, but value drops with 4 pt pass tds)). In rd 2, I am thinking go best RB or WR and same for rd 3.
    if good tier 2-3 qbs are there in the early rd 4 pick – do i go that route or streaming?

    Suggestions on how to draft in a league that will not be use to the SuperFlex ? I know this is a 2QB string, but I have pretty much settled that SuperFlex = 2Qbs start unless you get hung out with very bad qbs.

    Thoughts?

  9. If you’re comfortable streaming, then grab a couple of more RB/WR players, and stream your QB2.

    Superflexes are pretty much 2-QB leagues, as starting a QB in the flex provides an advantage.

    If it’s a first time with a superflex, your league might draft as normal, thinking not much of the fact a QB can be placed in the flex, or they might go the opposite way, and go QB crazy, treating it like a true 2-QB league.

    If it’s the former, you’ll be able to wait on QB, after you grab your QB1. If it’s the latter, you’re going to want to grab a couple of QBs within your first three picks.

    You won’t really know until draft time, but picking 9th gives you a good idea of how the league views the QB superflex position.

  10. Julie

    I’m drafting #13 in a 14 man 2 QB league. I’ll be ok with my first 2 picks, probably snagging a good QB and a good RB. It’s the 24 picks that come before my next draft pick that worry me. Any advice on this type league draft?

    • Yeah, I’ve been in 14-team 2-QB league before. QBs tend to go pretty fast in such a environment. Going QB-QB should also be an option, as you would be able to grab two good QBs early, and you wouldn’t have to worry about choosing a QB2 you wouldn’t really want.

      It’s a long wait from your 2nd round pick to your 3rd round pick, and if you think it’s going to be a QB heavy draft, bypassing RB could be something to consider. You almost have to think of it in terms of not which player you want to draft, but which player you don’t want to miss out on.

      If there’s a can’t miss player, especially a QB, that you want/need on your team, consider that player with your second round pick. After that you just have to pray that there’ll be some good RBs coming your way.

      If a lot of QBs do get drafted, that means the RBs/WRs get pushed down the board, and somebody should fall to you.

  11. Ken

    I am in a 12 team ppr with QB,RB,RB,WR,WR,TE, W/R/T, Q/W/R/T
    Its my first league where I have the option to start 2 qbs and I have the 2nd pick in draft. Word is the guy with the first pick is going to take Foster. Would I be crazy to pass on AP to take a Rodgers,brees,newton my first pick? passing 25 yds = 1 pt and 4 pt td. would ppr aspect change your thinking on strategy. Because I am so early I dont have the luxury of seeing how the draft is playing out and dont pick again til 23&26. I know you have to be adaptable but I’m kind of stumped especially because all the “experts” are pushing qb depth and running backs being thin. I just get the feeling theres going to be alot of busts this year due to alot of top projected players are relatively unproven. Hopefully you can provide me with some help here, Thank you

    • Hey Ken,

      The QB flex option pretty much makes it a 2-QB league, as it’s usually an advantage to start a QB in the flex because of how heavy the scoring favors the QB position.

      Has this league been in existence before? Or is it a completely new one? If it’s an existing league you’re just joining, do you know how previous drafts have unfolded?

      In 12-team 2-QB leagues, I prefer going QB early, just because you don’t want to miss out on a QB1. And picking 2nd overall means that if you go AP, you might not get a chance at a good QB when your 2nd round pick is OTC.

      On the other hand, if pick 1 goes Foster, and you got AP, it could start a trend that sees some of the top RBs fall. There’s an argument to each side.

      The PPR aspect changes things a bit, as does how passing TDs are worth 4 points, instead of 6.

      When you mention potential busts are you talking the QB position specifically?

      Being near the top of the draft means that if you go QB, and other teams go QB, you should have some good RB/WR options to choose from in Rounds 2/3.

      You have to look at in terms of what you are more comfortable not having. Would you rather not have AP or a QB1 on your team? Could you handle drafting AP and then having someone like Josh Freeman/Jay Cutler as your QB1, instead of your QB2?

    • Paul

      Hi Ken,

      Thanks for the read. I’d be happy to give you my thoughts on your concerns.

      Addressing one of your last comments, there will be “busts” at every position. Many players, including slam dunk players, will not live up to their ADP. Fantasy, although sports-related, is a numbers and statistics game. Keep that in mind. If you strongly believe a player will be a bust, then go with your gut instinct and stay away. But that doesn’t mean the player you draft in his place won’t be a bust either. So I wouldn’t be overly concerned with picking a lemon in your draft. There’s opportunity for each player to have a bust label.

      It is true that QB depth is abundant this year, and many experts are pushing to wait. You must take this with a grain of salt as well. Most of the experts are speaking from the lens of a 1qb league. In their eyes (and most likely true in most 1qb drafts), you can pick up StaffordRyan in round 7-8 or Romo in 9-10. In a 1qb league I’d be very happy with that kind of production in those rounds. But 2qb leagues are a different mentality. I’m including you in the 2qb conversation because a “superflex” is basically that. If your league mates miss the boat on taking advantage of a qb in that flex spot, you’re a leg up.

      I’m a big believer in grabbing a QB in the first round, especially towards the beginning of the round. If you take AP and there’s a big qb run after, you will not be happy with your qb situation, especially qb2. By taking a qb early, yes you’ll miss out on the top tier rbs, but it puts you in a better position to grab a good qb as your flex position. And this will more than make up for the point gap by not taking AP with your first pick. Additionally, another reason I like qb early is the injury factor. Imagine if you took AP in the 1st rd and he gets hurt. Now you’re left with shaky qb play because you waited, and shaky rb play because you’re rb2 probably wasn’t drafted until the 3rd/4th rd. To feed off Sal’s point, try to understand your leaguemate’s mentality. If they see the value of QBs in a superflex league, there could be a good run of qbs in the first round. Being that you already took Rogers/Brees/Cam, better RBs will fall to you in the second round. And if your leaguemates don’t go on a QB run, that means you can get a potential Wilson or Romo as your flex. That is tremendous opportunity for you.

      As for ppr, it changes my mentality when it comes to the middle rounds. I’d rather go with a good WR rather than a mediocre RB in a RBBC. In my opinion, WR value is greater than RB value towards the middle/late rounds of drafts. However, given the opportunity I’d still take top RBs over top WRs, even in ppr.

      Hope this helps Ken. Good luck!

      • Ken

        Hey guys thanks for the timely and detailed response, This is the second year for the league but my first in it. After looking at last years final rosters no team popped out at me as having 2 real good qbs, Unfortunately I was only able to see the final rosters and not the draft results so because of trades and whatnot I wasn’t able to see exactly how the draft went. I have been talking with a fellow league member and he said some people try to get tons of rb depth because of the double flex you can start 4 rbs if you really wanted to. The team that won last year was stacked but I think that was just because he got lucky on breakout players late like rg3, cobb, and dez. Assuming that my friend isn’t purposely misleading me (which I wouldn’t put past him, real competitive league) theres a good chance some teams go crazy rb heavy or even crazy wr heavy because of the double flex.
        I feel like in order for me to get an advantage at qb I would have to take 2 qbs within the first 3 rounds by my 4th pick all top qbs should be gone. The chance of people going rb rb rb rb is nuts but I think that would really mess me up if I got to the late 4th with 1 rb.
        What I guess I’m trying to say is would the advantage of 2 top qbs assuming I can get atleast a stafford as my second qb be enough to benefit me over a rb heavy team or wr heavy team?
        I know you said its whatever I would be more comfortable with and I do feel that if I can get 2 qbs early they are likely to be more consistent. Would a team with 2 good qbs say a decent receiving core and one stud rb and one decent rb 2 be better off than a team with 4 starting rbs or 4 good wrs and a decent qb
        I know this was hard to follow and probably not a common roster set up but I’m just exploring different scenarios.

        What I meant earlier when I said I think there’s gonna be alot of busts this year was that because so many rookie qbs broke out and theres so many top tier rbs that only have had one good year a nice chunk of them are bound to regress. Making this more of a hit or miss year than recent years.

        I hope you can understand my train of thought and because I have the big gaps between picks it makes the players and positions I target that much more important.

        People in this league have balls and are knowledgeable!!

        12team ppr Qb/rb/rb/wr/wr/te and w/r/t & q/w/r/t

        Thank you for your time guys and I appreciate your insight

  12. Yeah, the double flex will throw you for a loop, and having 2 stud QBs at the QB position will be a benefit. How could it not?

    12-team 2-QB leagues there are going to be 24 starting QBs each week. That’s a lot. So, you have to rank your QBs and determine which QBs you can handle being your QB1 and QB2.

    Some people are okay with an Eli Manning or Carson Palmer type as their QB2. Some aren’t. If you don’t want to miss out on a RB, then you’re going to want to get one early.

    If you go QB/QB, you can get your QBs out of the way, and focus on the rest of the draft. You can also go QB/RB/QB, and get a little bit of both worlds.

    By the time your second round pick is on the clock, you’ll have a greater idea of what has happened in the draft, and you can see how many RBs/QBs have been taken. That will greatly influence your next two picks, because you’ll notice trends.

    Some teams might have taken two QBs, some only one, some none. Run the numbers, and constantly run them, so that you can keep track of how many QBs have been drafted.

    Hopefully you’ll have a clearer picture of the draft by your second round pick, and you will be able to decide with certainty what to do.

  13. Luke

    Well Guys, my first draft from one of my 2QB (OP/Flex/TE/WR/RB/QB) is in the books. This is what I ended up with by drafting from the 6th Position in a 10 Team League (By Round):

    QB: Aaron Rodgers (1st), Matthew Stafford (3rd), Andy Dalton (11th)
    RB: Alfred Morris (2nd), Reggie Bush (4th), Lamar Miller (5th), Chris Ivory (8th), Bryce Brown (12th)
    WR: Victor Cruz (6th), Eric Decker (9th), DeSean Jackson (7th), Kenbrell Thompkins (13th), Jermaine Kearse (14th)
    TE: Jordan Cameron (10th)
    PK: David Akers (17th)
    TD: Arizona Cardinals (15th), Detroit Lions (16th)

    While my initial reaction to my team after the draft was that I didn’t come away with the starter type caliber depth I wanted out of RB, mainly due to three guys in the league that all drafted about 4 RB’s within the first 5 rounds and left QB’s until the later rounds, I am starting to convince myself this team has a chance to be special. I knew I was going to sacrifice top 5 type WR’s by going bullish on QB and RB early and ended up with a decent stable of WR’s in the late mid-rounds. I can’t complain about my QB situation, a solid top 3 QB with Rodgers and Stafford could fall anywhere between 5th and 11th by season’s end. I had him as my 7th ranked QB and that’s why I picked him over the likes of Wilson and Luck in the 3rd round. I followed that pick up with Reggie Bush as my RB2 (we happened to be drafting during Thursday Night’s preseason contest between the Pats/Lions) and I couldn’t have been happier to see Bush’s upside displayed by 5 receptions for over 100 yards and a 67 yard catch and run that he should have scored on. That little tandem could pay dividends for my team all season if the Lions are consistent offensively. I took Miller as my 3rd RB right after Bush, again going for upside and starter status over the likes of guys like Lacy, Wilson, Ball, Matthews, Bell, etc… Turns out he’s on hot seat with Miami for his pass protection, but I have to hold out hope that his speed and talent will be more than the Miami coaching staff can pass up on 1st and 2nd downs. Cruz and Jackson can each hit the big one any give Sunday, Decker’s value is dependent on Welker’s health, and Thompkins is the big surprise this preseason. Kearse is my deep sleeper, but he’s in the starting rotation with Seattle and could fill that Harvin type play-making role. The only guy on my team I really just don’t feel good with is Chris Ivory. Reports out of the Jets are talking about Bilal Powell and a platoon at the RB position, plus Ivory has an injury predisposition. Here’s to hoping Brown gets those 12-13 carries out of Philly left over from McCoy’s 20 and Vick’s 5-7…, instead of the slow lumbering jack Chris Polk.

    Anyways, that’s my positive spin on my team. I definitely need Bush and Miller to POP for me this year to have a shot at the title imo… What do you guys think???

    • Paul

      There’s no positive spin needed, that’s a great team. You have 2 potential top 5 QBs. I have Stafford at QB5. Five unlucky Megatron tackles inside the 5 dropped Stafford’s ADP. He can get there this year. Additionally, the fact that you were able to land Morris, Bush AND Miller is tremendous. Cruz is a top 10 threat, and being that you strategically chose to sacrifice WR in order to obtain QBs&RBs, that’s a huge guy to have. And while Decker isn’t a lock to repeat last year’s performance due to Welker, he’s still a nice WR2 to have. Don’t be surprised if Kenbrell becomes your every week WR2 starter. He looked fantastic last game, and his rapport with Brady is only getting better in a bath of unproven receivers. You have a potential top 15 QB in Dalton that is your flex. Even if your opponents went RB heavy early in the draft and have a better stable of RBs, they probably can’t come close to competing with you at the QB position. Due to the nature of the high scoring QBs, the point gap you create between your QBs & flex vs. their QBs & flex is far greater than their advantage over you at the RB position (if there even is one). The one suggestion I have, if I were you, would be to pony up and trade for Helu. Should Morris go down, Helu is a top 20 RB in my opinion. When given the opportunity, he is able to shine. Having that kind of assurance for Morris is something I like, especially with such a high upside, low ADP handcuff. Other than that, you are good. Good luck!

  14. Really solid team, Luke. Really solid.

    I think you have a team that will keep you in contention all year long, and you have two QB1s, and a guy that could be a QB1 in Dalton. Since it’s a QB flex league, you could always trade Dalton for a position of need, if that ever becomes the case, because somebody will probably need a better QB for their team at some point.

    WR is crazy deep this year, and it’s hard not to get a good group of wideouts in any fantasy league this season. Nice Cameron pick, too!

    You got a good 1-2 punch at RB, and Miller could make it three, if he lives up the hype. I’ve attached myself to the David Wilson hype train, so I know what it’s like depending on upside. Ivory has the talent to step up, just needs to stay healthy.

    Good luck on the season, and hope you bring home that fantasy championship gold!

  15. Luke

    Thanks for the kudos Paul and Salvatore, it actually means something coming from you two, as you are experienced in the 2 QB League formats! Paul, I already picked Helu up off the waiver as a handcuff for Morris. I had a hard time not picking up Christine Michael as a deep sleeper from Seattle, as he is a younger carbon copy of Lynch and if Marshawn got hurt for any period of time, Michael would be a top 5 RB. After watching Wilson break that 84 yard TD run Saturday, I’m buying on David and am targeting him in the 4th round of my next 2QB draft, if he lasts that long…

    Jordan Cameron and that Browns offense looked awful in their Preseason Game 3, not sure what Weeden’s problem is, but Cameron’s value definitely is tied to Brandon’s performance each week. Makes me think if you could get Gronk in the 5th and handcuff him with Sudfield in the 9th or 10th, that would be worth the risk. I ended up dropping the Cardinal D/ST and picked up J.Cook off the waiver as well (5 catches for 50 yards and an athletic jumping TD sold me against Denver).

    Chris Ivory looks like he’s doomed to 2nd string platoon service on an awful Jets team that will see heavy 7-8 man fronts all year. I’m trying not to panic and drop him for J.Dwyer, but that Steelers’ backfield is even harder to predict. I’ll wait a little while before hitting that big red button.

    Finally, in my other 2 QB’er, drafting on Sept 4th, I’m rocketing Luck up on my QB board from 9th to 5th. Right now my QB ranks go Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Ryan, Luck, Newton, Manning, Kaepernick, Stafford, Wilson, RG3, Romo (only because I hate the Cowboys and don’t want to hate my team too). Depending on how that first round goes, if I can’t get one of those top 3 QB’s in the 1st Rnd, I’ll shoot for a top 5 RB, then follow it up with a QB in the second (targeting Ryan, Luck, Newton, Manning). My top 10 RB’s are ranked such as AP, Lynch, Martin, McCoy, Morris, Spiller, Charles, Rice, Foster, Johnson, Richardson.

    Thanks for the feedback, only a couple of weeks left to geek out on draft strategies and rankings before the rubber hits the road!!!

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